Saturday, October 17, 2020

Oct 12 - 18 : 3 Nephi 20-26

Initial thoughts, Oh no! Old testament chapters & language. Time to get the chocolates.....and the cinnamon swirls..... and the giant bag of crisps.

Comparison with Isaiah 54 & Malachi 3 & 4, but His teaching didn't just come from OT prophets, in other chapters have been comparable to NT teachings.

I'm fine with admitting old testament stuff is not my forte. In fact, I'd call it a weakness. But I have put in the effort, I have personally received many great insights. I doubt I'll share them all with you, but hopefully I have some main content that will not only be interesting for you, but maybe delicious to you.

I do like to start off by summarising the content of the chapters we have read and then historically I would ask the class if they had any insights they would like to share which may steer the lesson in a particular direction.

Summary of the reading


20:1-9 He feeds the people bread & wine (the sacrament) the people were filled with he spirit. It is proposed the bread & wine were provided miraculously by the saviour. Generally he provides miraculously.

13 scattered shall be gathered

Those who do not repent shall be cut off and the sword of justice shall hang over them

Shall establish a new Jerusalem

Christ reminds the house of Israel (of which we all are) that he has made covenants

21:1-10 A sign of the gathering, 

21:11+ Don't repent and be cut off.

21:29 Ahead & at the rear, Moses & exodus reference, you/we are not alone.

22 is the Isaiah 54 chapter. Zion, the new Jerusalem, shall be established, imagery of enlarging stakes, no weapon formed against thee shall prosper, no unhallowed hand shall stop the work from progressing.

23:1-5 Commandment to search the scriptures & Isaiah.

23:6-14 The importance of record keeping. Cannot prove prophecies are fulfilled unless the prophecy is recorded & the fulfilling of the prophecy is recorded.

24:2 Refiners Fire reference.

24:7-12 tithing verses

25: Elijah shall return.

26:1-10 Jesus teaches the people all things from the beginning. 

26:11 Mormon interjects for a few verses to say he only included in the BOM the things he was commanded.

26:13 Sacrament, teaching children, healing of sick & raised a man from the dead. The disciples taught & baptised.

26:16+ sounds a lot like Acts of the New Testament. Jesus is now gone, the disciples now go out preaching.


Personal Insights


General

  • Who is speaking in these chapters?
  • Doesn't that make it worth investing in trying to understand?

Chapter 20

  • He generally provides miraculously. Link to Malachi, prove me now herewith (3 Nephi 24:10)
  • The new Jerusalem, or gathering not necessarily a geographical place.
  • The Lord is gathering those who are willing to let God prevail in their lives.
  • https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/10/46nelson
  • AOF #10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

Chapter 21

  • v1-10 The gathering commences when these words are spread. When was that? Publication of the Book of Mormon?
  • Interpretation, of Israel. Let God prevail. According to a couple of Hebrew Scholars. Let God help you. Are you going to let God help you? Refinement, growth, all that stuff is uncomfortable.
  • What does the gathering of Israel look like. Ref pres Nelsons talk. Helping someone make & keep their covenants. Either side of the veil. “When we speak of gathering Israel on both sides of the veil, we are referring, of course, to missionary, temple, and family history work. We are also referring to building faith and testimony in the hearts of those with whom we live, work, and serve. Anytime we do anything that helps anyone—on either side of the veil—to make and keep their covenants with God, we are helping to gather Israel.
  • https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/10/46nelson
  • What part are you playing in this process? Are you watching others do the gathering or are you helping? During this current climate, should we stop gathering? Reminds me of a talk by President Uchtdorf, Are you sleeping through the restoration. The title of the talk says it all.
  • President Nelson, "we have been charged to assist the Lord with this pivotal work".
  • What is another word we use regularly that describes the gathering? The restoration. Today we use the term restoration because on the timeline & context of things that makes more sense. But for pre-apostasy saints, the restoration won't mean much, but the idea of an ultimate gathering after a scattering means more to them.
  • 21:10 Blew me away. What does marred mean in this context? Martyrdom. Even if Joseph smith was a fraud, he prophesied his own death!

Chapter22

  • Chapter 21 & 22, what's the difference between WILL & SHALL. Old paper copy, chapter heading says SHALL. Gospel library app (& presumably latest edition) says WILL.
  • v17 No weapon formed against thee shall prosper, sounds a lot like, no unhallowed hand shall stop the work from progressing. In a strange twist, which could be described as miraculous & potentially prophecy fulfilling, during the world wide pandemic, which is causing significant damage directly and indirectly to individuals, families, communities, nations & governments, it has been reported that while missionary work may not be what it used to be, it has not slowed down but has accelerated.

Chapter 23

  • Conversation to Nephi about Samuel. Did you write the prophecies of Samuel, because you know they came true?
  • It is kind of a funny story & unfortunate for Nephi, but what can we learn about the importance of record keeping?
  • If these can come true, so can all these major promises.

Chapter 24

  • v2 refers to the Refiners Fire. I feel like this was a theme of General Conference. Elder Holland talked about it when he kinda quoted Elder Maxwell when he suggested sometimes we pray to be perfected but ask that we experience no difficulties along the way. Does anyone feel refined?
  • What impurities do you have? What do you need to do to remove them?
  • Is refinement different to purification? I don’t think this is talking about repentance (possibly the atonement). Repentance is overcoming sin, this refinement is enduring & overcoming challenges either well or just at all.
  • v2-4 Through Him, we are refined, and become even more good (better) and are able to offer up good gifts.
  • Matt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? 
  • Plug for self reliance. Emotional Resilience course states "All that we suffer and all that we endure, especially when we endure patiently, builds up our characters, purifies our hearts, expands our souls, and makes us more tender and charitable"
  • We are refined, for what purpose? To learn how give. Charity is the pure love of Christ. The 1st two commandments are to love God & our neighbour. How do we love? We serve

Chapter 25

  • After learning from President Nelsons talk, about the gathering happening on both sides of the veil, you can understand why the saviour would mention Elijah or rather, why Mormon would include it in the final draft.
  • Consider asking the class…Why would a reference to Elijah be relevant intermingled with chapters relating to the gathering?

Chapter 26

  • v11 This verse implies there are words that could be written that prove the existence of God, but God does not want us to read them, but would rather try our faith. The Nephites had them because they saw the saviour & witnessed all the miracles he did while he visited with them, they no longer had faith but knowledge.



What are the covenants?

20:13. 29 gather them, give them Jerusalem, the promised land.


Therefore what? What are you doing or going to do to be part of the gathering of Israel, building of Zion, part of the restoration? How will you help others make & keep covenants?



Wednesday, October 14, 2020

Sept 14 -20 : 3 Nephi 8-11

Did anyone watch The Testaments Video?


Chapter 8: Signs of his death, great destruction.

Chapter 9: Voice heard in the darkness.

Chapter 10: The voice continues. Explaining the destruction that has taken place. A reminder that He continues to gather his chicks.

Chapter 11: The saviour Appears & invites all to repent & be baptised.


Did anyone have any insights into this weeks reading they are willing to discuss?



Here are a few things that caught my attention.


And there began to be great doubtings and disputations among the people, notwithstanding so many signs had been given. (3 Nephi 8:4)

Another verse we can liken to ourselves. Is this anything like it is today? Or is today different?


I don't know if we are days or years away from the second coming, but signs ha e been given. I'd like to think if the sun set & it did not go dark many people would consider it a sign, but I suspect it would be explained away by science or/and hardheartedness.


Another example of the forgiving nature of the saviour. Though at this point he did just destroy 1,000's so a little mercy might be expected!


How often I have gathered you. 10:5-6

Ho often has the saviour gathered you back?

How often we should be prepared to do the same & forgive others? It's hard, especially with repeat offenders. It's easier with your children, but I've not been a parent of a teenager yet. Relative to the Saviour, do we behave like little children or do we behave like teenagers?


What might happen if a chick chose not to gather when called?


For everyone in this zoom call now, we have all strayed many times over our life, but the fact that you are here, joining in, implies you are returning, repentant, and looking for salvation.


Have any of you sinned, repented, been gathered again like a chick, then after time sinned again? In these verses I don’t think the saviour is necessarily only referring to the pride cycle which can manifest itself over months or years but is also referring to our own internal struggles.


There are many questions in the manual. Many are easy to answer like ‘What brings light?’. But you will get more out of your study if you answer the harder ones like ‘How has Jesus Christ been a light in your life?’.


Troy & I saying a prayer amidst the chaos of his latest significant accident then reporting back to me later the Jesus did help him.


When I am in the sorrows of sin, I’m not perfect, none of us are, I do often look to Christ, like Peter sinking/drowning in the water. I know the steps of repentance have the power to save.


Most instances of the light of Christ have been in the numerous church meetings I have been in or in the quiet moments reflecting on questions like this. They tend not to be busts of sunshine but twinkles of the stars.


Something I just noticed is the word ‘reflection’. You cannot have a reflection without some light source. You can't reflect in darkness.


Finally. The most significant chapter in the Book of Mormon.


Many studies around these verses tend to focus on the voice in chapter 11. How does the message in chapters 9 & 10 differ from the voice in chapter 11?


The prophets have been testifying of this moment for 100's of years. And now those prophecies had been fulfilled. All the signs leading up to this point had also been fulfilled but even back then there would have been 'wise' men who explained away the night without darkness etc.


This one, will have been undeniable. A voice everyone heard and a man descending out of heaven.


The voice says "Behold my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased, in whom I have glorified my name - hear ye him".


Interesting choice of words. "Why not just behold my son, hear him?"


Verse 10: I am Jesus Christ. The prophets were right, here I am.


Verse 11: I I have done everything my father & your father has asked me to do, including taking upon myself the sins of the world.


Verse 14: Come and touch me so you may know I am real & that these marks are further proof the prophets were right, I was killed.


Verses 21-28: Calls for Nephi and gives him authority to baptise. Then gave the authority to others. Then taught the conditions for baptism & how to Baptise.


Verses 29-30: Be one, don't be contentious.


Verses 31-33: Repent & believe & be saved & inherit the kingdom of


Verse 34: Don't believe & be dammed.


Verses 35-36: Repeating that the godhead are one.


Verses 37-38: Repetition


Verse 40: Do not alter what I have told you.


Verse 41: Go tell everyone what I have said.


Of all the things he could have said 1st, why do you think he taught what he did?


According to the 4th article of faith what are the 1st principles & ordinances of the Gospel?


Faith v14: Come forth...that ye may know

Repentance v23, v38: Repent

Baptism v23, v33, v38: 

Gift of the Holy Ghost: v35, 


Next weeks study is 12-16

Incidentally, I think you will find many similarities between these next chapters and those recorded in the Bible of Jesus Ministry. Why would he teach the people in America any different?